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Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately.
Da, ja se u potpunosti slazem da nije lako prepoznati da li je Bitkoin piramidalna shema. Ova nasa polemika je jos jedan dokaz toga.
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However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public.
U dobroj meri vazi za bitkoin - investitori ce zaraditi veliki profit ako se nadju novi investitori koji ce ga kupiti po visokoj ceni.
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Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure.
Ne deluje poznato? Product je u ovom slucaju usluga - platnog prometa. Bitkoin shema stvara iluziju namere da se nudi usluga platnog prometa, ali kao sto smo videli ta usluga ne funkcionise u 99,999% slucajeva kada hocemo nesto da kupimo i moje misljenje je da ta iluzija sluzi samo da prikrije piramidalnu strukturu sheme.
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There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices.
Upravo na ovo stalno ukazujem - na forumima i ostalim okupljalistima kriptovernika uvek je sada vreme za kupovinu, a nikada nije sada vreme za prodaju. Podstice se gomilanje bitkoina, a moje misljenje je da ce sve te zalihe kad dodje do pucanja ostati neprodate, jer ih niko nece hteti i nece imati nikakvu vrednost.
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If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market.
Market, to sam u ovom slucaju ja, a system to si ti. Sva ili gotovo sva proizvodnja bitkoina ostaje u sistemu, a vrlo malo ili u ovo slucaju nista ce market prihvatiti da kupi i koristi za gore opisanu kaobajagi namenu platnog prometa.
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The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements.
Ne znam da li si ti ili vec ko gore napisao da nikada ne prodaje kripto vec samo stvara zalihe istog u svojevrsnom virtuelnom podrumu, bez jasne namere da se tih zaliha ikada oslobodi.
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A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists.
Eto, nisam samo ja to tvrdio, vec i dokument na koji se pozivas - samo gomilas a ne prodajes, to ukazuje na piramidu.
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Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.
Da, eto, ja sam upravo u ovom trenutku consumer usluga platnog prometa. Upravo sada zelim da kupim dve avionske karte, dve karte za voz i nekoliko nocenja u hotelu, da li mi to tvoj proizvod omogucuje (po istim ili boljim uslovima od drugih kanala platnog prometa)? Ne. Znaci, tvoj proizvod je najgori i najskuplji na trzistu i nikada nece naci put do consumera.
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A Ponzi scheme is closely related to a pyramid because it revolves around continuous recruiting, but in a Ponzi scheme the promoter generally has no product to sell and pays no commission to investors who recruit new "members." Instead, the promoter collects payments from a stream of people, promising them all the same high rate of return on a short-term investment.
Sad bih ja trebao da budem ekspert za tu terminologiju pa da znam da li su ponzijeve i piramidalne sheme podskup jedna druge, ili imaju zajednicki presek? Nisam. Ne znam. Hajde da vidimo sta pise dalje...
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In the typical Ponzi scheme, there is no real investment opportunity, and the promoter just uses the money from new recruits to pay obligations owed to longer-standing members of the program. In English, there is an expression that nicely summarizes this scheme: It's called "stealing from Peter to pay Paul." In fact some law enforcement officers call Ponzi schemes "Peter-Paul" scams. Many of you may be familiar with Ponzi schemes reported in the international financial news. For example, the MMM fund in Russia, which issued investors shares of stock and suddenly collapsed in 1994, was characterized as a Ponzi scheme.(2)
Gore sam naveo primer gde smo ja i ti Petar i Pavle. Ali ti si napisao da ti deluje nepovezan i da ga ne mozes razumeti. Hebiga, sta ja tu mogu?
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Both Ponzi schemes and pyramids are quite seductive because they may be able to deliver a high rate of return to a few early investors for a short period of time.
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Stvara zavisnost kod zrtvava, jer daje visok profit u prvo vreme nekolicini ranih investitora. Moje misljenje je da su ti rani investitori vec napunili kofere novcem i penzionisali se, sada uzivaju pod suncobranom na nekom tropskom ostrvu. Sada se zrtve igraju same medju sobom i nadaju se da ce uskoro doci do invazije naivnih vanzemaljaca koji ce napumpati cenu bitkoina na $200.000, jer na ovoj planeti takvih po svemu sudeci vise nema.
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Yet, both pyramid and Ponzi schemes are illegal because they inevitably must fall apart. No program can recruit new members forever. Every pyramid or Ponzi scheme collapses because it cannot expand beyond the size of the earth's population.(3) When the scheme collapses, most investors find themselves at the bottom, unable to recoup their losses.
To o cemu pricam. Problem je sto nijedna od tih shema ne bude prepoznata i zabranjena na vreme, pre nego sto se raspadne i ostavi investitore praznih ruku. Ali, uzmimo hipoteticki primer da ovog trenutka bitkoin bude prepoznat i zabranjen, koliko i od koga ces naplatiti svoju investiciju? Nula. Ni od koga.
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